The Silent Secretary

William  James  Stangel’s  name is not in the Silent  Secretary.

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William James Stangel is well known on the Internet, so is his P-51 Stinky 2.

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I  was  looking  for  his name, but I  stumbled  on this  one instead.

Albert Dalton Braswell…

Brasswell wanted to  go to Toronto.

April 24 1942

Albert Dalton BRASWELL, son of William and Dora, was born September 14, 1921, Blue Ridge, Texas, and died February 26, 1943. He married Gloria Belle Staton, who was born February 13, 1924, Fort Worth, Texas. They had six children.

My grandfather, Albert Dalton Braswell, was killed along with all his mates when their plane went down off Apalachicola, Florida (don’t think I spelled it right). He was a passenger. He was cremated and ashes were spread over the ocean. My mother got a pension from the government as a result of this during her childhood.

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He had joined the Royal Canadian Army as a pilot, I think; but joined the US Army once the Americans entered the war. He was training to be an aerial gunner in the US Army. 

Thanks,

Lucy Barron

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March 27 1942

This comment made yesterday made me think about the diary. This blogger is writing a blog about a paratrooper who served in the Pacific.

Every history needs to be recorded, every story told – I can’t stress that enough to my readers and I know you do as well.

I will take her advice, but I will start slow with Lawrence Walton Montague’s diary.

Here goes…

Partying was part of a cadet’s life.

I read it in Art Sager’s book Saturday night, so I think I can safely post this diary page.

This is the entry for March 25, 1942. Lawrence will soon get his wings at No. 6 SFTS Dunnville.

March 25 1942

No disrespectful remarks made on this page.

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Tonight was the glorious party.

As usual everyone got stupidly drunk and made silly asses of themselves. Sometimes I wonder if I am missing a lot by not drinking.

Old George Watson was stupidly funny tonight. He wasn’t going to get drunk. And he could always control himself –

How funny.

Old Scotty – Alex Strang – quite a nice fellow.

A very level head.

Arrived in Dunnville at quite a wee hour.

Old George Watson… Alex Strang…

Both in Course 44!

Course 44: December 6, 1941 – March 27. 1942

Wing Commander Patriarche addressed the graduates.”This coming year is going to be an extremely tough one and there will be a tendency all through the Empire of the people to criticize those in authority. It is being done already but I hope that you here, both airmen and visitors, will have no part in it. Make sure before you criticize that you always have a suggestion better than what you are criticizing. None of the men in political or military authority is of a lower standard than the rest of us. They have to be better men or they would not have got the job. You can take it for granted that those men can make just as good or better suggestions than the rest of us. Bear in mind that they have all the facts, whereas we have but a few.

+(J/10741) Eric Thomas Garrett, (J/10742) Harold Eugene Bridges (DFC), (J/10744) L.J. Smith, (J/10748) Thomas Ernest Hilary Farley, (J/10751) William James Stangel, (J/10752) Alfred Giles, +Daniel Ray Scott, +Robert Byrne Honeycombe, Eric Thomas Garrett, Wallace Oppenheimer, James W. Gillen, Gordon A. Patton, +Albert Dalton Braswell, Lee Wells, Conrad Ross Crawford, John William Hubler, Charles Arthur Plewman Appleton – DFC 433 Sqn., +Frank Joseph Borrell, Lawrence Walton Montague, Joseph Wilford McMullin, George Greenwood, +Vincent Wall, John Claire MacDonald, +Dorian Ledington, William Houston Julian, Norman Alexander Ballantyne, John Land Clinton, Edward Mielko, M.M. Fudge, John Douglas Hooper. R. King, James Pringle Morton, +Victor George DeHavilland, Harold Albert Heacock, C.E. Shannon, William Bruce Brittain (DFC), Alexander Wall Strang, G.D. Watson

Royal New Zealand Air Force: (414667) A.J. Osborne, Arthur David Leese, (414238) Alfred William Burge DFC), G.T. Couttie, +(414651) Godfrey Alan McKoy, +(414721) Harry Keith Williams, +(414677) Arthur Lyall Ray, +(41430) Bruce Mackenzie Hirstich, +(413858) Maurice Carson Jolly, + (414380) Douglas Robert Bannerman, +(413875) Frederick Thomas Martyn, +(414664) Andrew George Patterson Newman, +(414278) Raymond Cyril Going, +(414321) Mervyn Jack Mills, Jack McRae Brigham, R.R. Horo, V. Orr, R. Wing, S. Matthews, T.D. Stewart, James E. Shields, T. Alexander, W.M. Sampson, R.J. Hetherington, R.S. Campbell, J.J. McMath, J.N. Buchanan, B.G. Simpson, J.M. McCarrison, W.P. Bennett, (414374) William Frank Bern

Not much information on those two cadets on the Internet, but now you understand the importance of this diary to look for people related to these cadets and share what we know about No. 6 SFTS Dunnville, Ontario.

Lawrence glued this on a page in his diary giving us more clues to look at.

class 44 Dunnville December 6 1941

G. D. Watson, New Westminster, B.C.

A. W. Strang, Halifax, N.S.

Now you understand even more the importance of this diary when you look at this picture also glued on a page.

I believe little Larry is on the right.

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Next time, we will go back in time with Lawrence’s first entry in his personal diary.

Before I leave, who was Old  Scotty?

Was he Daniel Ray Scott from Coleman, Texas who died in WWII?

Thanks for showing me the way…

Is It That Important? Part Deux

Is it that important that we find relatives of this man even though he was not a famous ace during WWII?

I think so.

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Lawrence Walton Montague
1918-1990

Is it that important that we give back this personal diary he wrote back in 1942?

journal13I was asking myself this question this weekend. The answer was obvious.

This diary is quite sensitive in nature. It reads like a novel and it reveals Lawrence Walton Montague’s inner feelings about the war.

What bothers me are the entries that are sometimes shocking and very disrespectful of his superiors and his comrades revealing the character about a young man who enlisted in the RCAF, but who regretted this move.

Why he enlisted is not known.

He did so before December 7th, 1941. Strangely enough there is no mention of Pearl Harbor anywhere in the diary nor about the U.S. entering the war.

I got my answer.

I have just started reading a book written by a famous Spitfire pilot.

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He wrote it using his diary.

He writes that when he was a cadet, cadets were not that interested with what was going on with the war. Lawrence’s attitude seems then to have been prevalent with young cadets during WWII.

I am going to continue with this story, but not because of Lawrence and his controversial entries in his diary, but because of the overwhelming research done on the Website that had his name and try help perpetuate the memory of the new pilots who stood at attention listening to Wing Commander Patriarche address on March 27, 1942.

Course 44: December 6, 1941 – March 27. 1942

Wing Commander Patriarche addressed the graduates.”This coming year is going to be an extremely tough one and there will be a tendency all through the Empire of the people to criticize those in authority. It is being done already but I hope that you here, both airmen and visitors, will have no part in it. Make sure before you criticize that you always have a suggestion better than what you are criticizing. None of the men in political or military authority is of a lower standard than the rest of us. They have to be better men or they would not have got the job. You can take it for granted that those men can make just as good or better suggestions than the rest of us. Bear in mind that they have all the facts, whereas we have but a few.

+(J/10741) Eric Thomas Garrett, (J/10742) Harold Eugene Bridges (DFC), (J/10744) L.J. Smith, (J/10748) Thomas Ernest Hilary Farley, (J/10751) William James Stangel, (J/10752) Alfred Giles, +Daniel Ray Scott, +Robert Byrne Honeycombe, Eric Thomas Garrett, Wallace Oppenheimer, James W. Gillen, Gordon A. Patton, +Albert Dalton Braswell, Lee Wells, Conrad Ross Crawford, John William Hubler, Charles Arthur Plewman Appleton – DFC 433 Sqn., +Frank Joseph Borrell, Lawrence Walton Montague, Joseph Wilford McMullin, George Greenwood, +Vincent Wall, John Claire MacDonald, +Dorian Ledington, William Houston Julian, Norman Alexander Ballantyne, John Land Clinton, Edward Mielko, M.M. Fudge, John Douglas Hooper. R. King, James Pringle Morton, +Victor George DeHavilland, Harold Albert Heacock, C.E. Shannon, William Bruce Brittain (DFC), Alexander Wall Strang, G.D. Watson

Royal New Zealand Air Force: (414667) A.J. Osborne, Arthur David Leese, (414238) Alfred William Burge DFC), G.T. Couttie, +(414651) Godfrey Alan McKoy, +(414721) Harry Keith Williams, +(414677) Arthur Lyall Ray, +(41430) Bruce Mackenzie Hirstich, +(413858) Maurice Carson Jolly, + (414380) Douglas Robert Bannerman, +(413875) Frederick Thomas Martyn, +(414664) Andrew George Patterson Newman, +(414278) Raymond Cyril Going, +(414321) Mervyn Jack Mills, Jack McRae Brigham, R.R. Horo, V. Orr, R. Wing, S. Matthews, T.D. Stewart, James E. Shields, T. Alexander, W.M. Sampson, R.J. Hetherington, R.S. Campbell, J.J. McMath, J.N. Buchanan, B.G. Simpson, J.M. McCarrison, W.P. Bennett, (414374) William Frank Bern

So is it that important that we find relatives of this man even though he was not a famous ace during WWII?

I think so.

Is It That Important?

Is it that important that we find relatives of this man?

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Lawrence Walton Montague
1918-1990

Is it that important that we give back this personal diary he wrote back in 1942?

journal13I am asking myself this question while I am writing this post on this blog I created back in 2009.

This diary reads like a novel and reveals Lawrence Walton Montague’s inner feelings about the war.

The entries are sometimes shocking and very disrespectful of his superiors and his comrades.

It also reveals the character about a young man who enlisted in the RCAF, but regretted this move.

Why he enlisted is not known. He did so before December 7th, 1941. Strangely enough there is no mention of Pearl Harbor anywhere in the diary nor about the U.S. entering the war.

Before I go on with this story, if I decide to go on with it, here are some information so people related to him can contact me by writing a comment.

The only place I found his name on the Internet was on this blog. Lawrence Walton Montague was a cadet in Course 44 at No. 6 SFTS in Dunnville, Ontario. I have permission to copy this information.

Excerpt from the blog

Course 44: December 6, 1941 – March 27. 1942

Wing Commander Patriarche addressed the graduates.”This coming year is going to be an extremely tough one and there will be a tendency all through the Empire of the people to criticize those in authority. It is being done already but I hope that you here, both airmen and visitors, will have no part in it. Make sure before you criticize that you always have a suggestion better than what you are criticizing. None of the men in political or military authority is of a lower standard than the rest of us. They have to be better men or they would not have got the job. You can take it for granted that those men can make just as good or better suggestions than the rest of us. Bear in mind that they have all the facts, whereas we have but a few.

+(J/10741) Eric Thomas Garrett, (J/10742) Harold Eugene Bridges (DFC), (J/10744) L.J. Smith, (J/10748) Thomas Ernest Hilary Farley, (J/10751) William James Stangel, (J/10752) Alfred Giles, +Daniel Ray Scott, +Robert Byrne Honeycombe, Eric Thomas Garrett, Wallace Oppenheimer, James W. Gillen, Gordon A. Patton, +Albert Dalton Braswell, Lee Wells, Conrad Ross Crawford, John William Hubler, Charles Arthur Plewman Appleton – DFC 433 Sqn., +Frank Joseph Borrell, Lawrence Walton Montague, Joseph Wilford McMullin, George Greenwood, +Vincent Wall, John Claire MacDonald, +Dorian Ledington, William Houston Julian, Norman Alexander Ballantyne, John Land Clinton, Edward Mielko, M.M. Fudge, John Douglas Hooper. R. King, James Pringle Morton, +Victor George DeHavilland, Harold Albert Heacock, C.E. Shannon, William Bruce Brittain (DFC), Alexander Wall Strang, G.D. Watson

Royal New Zealand Air Force: (414667) A.J. Osborne, Arthur David Leese, (414238) Alfred William Burge DFC), G.T. Couttie, +(414651) Godfrey Alan McKoy, +(414721) Harry Keith Williams, +(414677) Arthur Lyall Ray, +(41430) Bruce Mackenzie Hirstich, +(413858) Maurice Carson Jolly, + (414380) Douglas Robert Bannerman, +(413875) Frederick Thomas Martyn, +(414664) Andrew George Patterson Newman, +(414278) Raymond Cyril Going, +(414321) Mervyn Jack Mills, Jack McRae Brigham, R.R. Horo, V. Orr, R. Wing, S. Matthews, T.D. Stewart, James E. Shields, T. Alexander, W.M. Sampson, R.J. Hetherington, R.S. Campbell, J.J. McMath, J.N. Buchanan, B.G. Simpson, J.M. McCarrison, W.P. Bennett, (414374) William Frank Bern

Before I go on with this story, if I decide to go on with it, I would like to say a few words about the research done on the blog where I found Lawrence Walton Montague’s name.

The Journal

Sequel to Hello

RAF 23 Squadron

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The journal was not Eugene Gagnon’s journal. It belonged to this man.

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He only met Eugene Gagnon once in his life.

April 24, 1942.

Eugene must have written him a letter when he was posted in Manitoba, and Lawrence Walton Montague must have pasted part of the envelope on the cover of his personal journal.

journal13 Now how to give this journal back to this man’s relatives if he had any. Are there any clues in it?

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How did I came about to link him with Eugene Gagnon?

Easy.

Both were stationed at No. 6 STFS in Dunnville, Ontario.

I know you want to know more. This is a long story that I will post on my other blog Lest We Forget since this one is dedicated to 23 Squadron and  its pilots, navigators and ground personnel.

About 23 Squadron…

What about this and this.

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RAF 23 Squadron

Hello,

I am a librarian in Florida and I am doing some research for a patron. The patron has come across one of Eugene Gagnon’s journals from around 1943. He would like to get it back to the Gagnon family.

Please email me if you can be of any assistance. Thank you very much and keep up the great work on this website.

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Most Amazing Blog

I had found this blog back in 2011 when I was searching for a little known Mosquito pilot. I went back to visit it last week as I was searching for information about this man who met Eugene Gagnon on April 24th, 1942.

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This man is Lawrence Walton Montague.

Lawrence Walton Montague is not a war hero because we don’t find much information on him on the Internet.

This is a war hero in the first row. Back in 2010 there was little on the Internet about him. Things have changed a lot since then.

Bugg's picture with Eugene GagnonHow I came about to look for this war hero would fill a book.

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But I did not have time to write a book about Joseph Achille Eugene Gagnon, a French-Canadian Mosquito pilot with 23 Squadron based at Little Snoring.

Eugene Gagnon 1945I wrote a blog about it instead.

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